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Martial Arts Wrestle

which martial arts should you take first? offense or defense?

me and my friend are deciding to take martial arts,

what should we learn first?
were planning to take
mixed martial arts (kickboxing, wrestling and jiu jitsu) for offense and aikido for defense

offense is the best defence. Takes years to be able to defense yourself, or learn to counter attack effectively. Fight against someone who is fast and throw a or two fakes punches or fake kicks, and your counter attack goes out the window. And also, if they throw fast combinations, you block or evade the first attack and before you can counter, 2nd attack lands on your face. Defensive, requires timing, correct use of techniques under pressure and in a short period, ability to recognize your opponent's body movement, fast reflex, fast and effective counter techniques. You need all these element before you can defend yourself effective, and these take years to train. Defend against all styles takes even longer.

That is why in the first few years, when you are in trouble, go on offensive mode is the most effective strategy. Aikido works well when in class environment, with this art you really have to get perfect technique and perfect timing and early recognition of your opponent's movement to be able to execute it effectively. Fight against a fast fighter who mixes fakes and real punches, and kicks combinations and change their speed and rhythm without telegraphing himself and you are in deep trouble.

Best to learn kickboxing first, be good with your stand up game, learn about mobility and evasions, and timing. If you get taken to the ground, play dirty eye gouge your opponent, grab their groin, rib their ears and bite any parts of their body, and you should be able to survive the ground game if you do it fast, otherwise once you can be in trouble against a ground fighter.

Once you have done, kickboxing (3 years), you should do some bjj (3 years), and finally do MMA to put them together.
Useful to know kung fu, because they go straight for your weak points.

Kick-boxing and mma, are great with versatilities, but you will always have trouble with the size and strength advantage. That is why smaller guys have a lot of trouble beating bigger guys unless they are very skillful. But if the big guys are also skillful as well, you will lose once again.

That is why sometimes, it is better to do a style like wing chun and southern praying mantis where the smaller and more agile guys actually have the advantages over the bigger guys.
Smaller and weaker players will always have to be much more skillful than the bigger and stronger opponents. And it will takes 5 - 10 years before that can happens. I am talking about going against the bigger and stronger opponents who also train martial arts seriously.

That is why it is quite common for first few years where kickboxing will beat most other styles, because it is simple and effective and only takes you months to learn all the techniques and then, you work on other aspect of fighting.

But after about 5 years on ward, wing chun and southern praying mantis will take over kickboxing. wing chun with the sticky hand, hand trapping, weak point strikes,. Southern Praying mantis with the sticky hand, hand trapping, weak points strikes plus iron jacket and internal chi. both also have one inch punches. These skills level just way to high for kickboxing to deal with.

Having said that, learn from the best master available to you is better than learning the styles avaible to you. Even a simple system like kickboxing or boxing, if you learn from a really top fighters/instructors, you can be and will be really dangerous if you train seriously.

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Can a 39 yr old man, who's never trained in martial arts, wrestling, or boxing, start a career in MMA?

I don't see why not! It might be harder for you to get used to it (might be sore in places you didn't know existed) but as far as im concerned if you put your mind to it, you can do anything!

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5 Responses to “Martial Arts Wrestle”

1. j v Says:
   September 18th, 2010 at 1:17 pm

   Arrange him a MMA fight.

   Luckily almost all of my friends know it's a real thing. They wouldn't dare to question it especially after seeing the damages I recieved in Muay Thai.

2. Rocco G Says:
   November 8th, 2010 at 8:58 pm

   You can ask it here I no all

3. gtang09 Says:
   December 22nd, 2010 at 9:51 am

   i don't think so because each style might have different holds that are legal and illegal. I personally don't know the specific holds that are legal and illegal for each style, but my suggestion is that you look up the specific styles and decide for yourself what style to learn.

4. Komits Says:
   December 28th, 2010 at 5:22 am

   I have heard variations of it. I have some weapons training under my belt so I will say this, if some one wants to kill you you won't see the weapon anyways

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   September 27th, 2011 at 11:48 pm

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