Mma Ufc Do you think UFC and different mma groups, give martial arts a bad name?
I find a lot of time, ufc and mma take the art out of martial art.
I agree. And I also think that UFC promotes an inferior product. Overhyped and
overrated. Most of their "fighters" are nothing more than punks, who have no
life skills to get or hold a real job. They act and talk tough, but many times, once
in the ring, they show their true worth: pussy fighters.
Yes, there are some good ones, some real tough ones. But, for the most part,
the majority of UFC fighters are really not that good. I could go and hit the bars
in my town right now, and find a dozen tough bastards, who could mop the
floor with the average UFC fighter.
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Do you think Taker and Punk has a chance to get into UFC or MMA?
Between CM Punk and Taker, who has a better chance of getting in UFC or MMA? Note, they have equal fighting abilities, but one is better.
Taker takes like 7 months off a year due to his injuries so no. BUT Taker vs Big Nog would still be entertaining. CM Punk is still "young" but it would take at least one year of intense training to be competitive.
Even with weapons you need power- a wimpy spear thrust or a sword cut will not penetrate and cut or skewer the target (yes, some Japanese yari spearheads allow some cutting action- depends what kind a koryu ryuha uses.).
If only the nearest boxing gym was not Sweat St. Louis in Clayton, and also if it was not so expensive.
Just like a firefighter who has never trained in a fire tower is a charlatan, any martial artist who claims to train in a martial way and does not train full contact and/or realistically is doing nothing more than ballet or re-enacting old video games. You have to learn to understand what it feels like to get hit, and to persevere when it hurts.
(Unless physical limitations preclude him or her from participating in full contact training, then it is understandable. With weapons it is impossible to train full contact also, that is why koryu do kata with some limited sparring)
That is why I don't pay attention to sport karate (maybe kyokushin-style events- but even that, not really).
Even athletic and agile folks will have problems responding realistically (fitness does not always equal combat competency- a track and field athlete who never boxed will flounder for a while while sparring). My boxing coach told me, yes, you can hit the bag hard, but move and throw more combinations. A one hitter quitter is great to strive for, but if your footwork and reactions are sloppy, your one hitter punch will not hit your target or it will hit a poor target or you will get hit and you will get KOed before you hit your target.
Full contact combat is not from the waist up, it is all the body. I spent some months before I got the basic footwork down, and without footwork you can't punch with power, or time your power punch.
Power training can be done mostly on one's own, but partner drills and sparring can't (I can't feed pads to myself, or practice counters with myself). Even sparring is done with a referee- to make sure everything is okay.
It behooves all serious traditional martial artists to cross train in the various disciplines that comprise modern MMA/UFC style combat- boxing/kickboxing/muaythai, Brazilian jujutsu/grappling/wrestling, and Judo/Sambo (for standup throws- yes, there are successful Judoka in MMA- Karo Parisyan and Olympic Medalist Hidehiko Yoshida are two of them).
For the reality based areas the MMA training can't cover, I recommend the following books and videos to help you design your own training program:
Books
-Reality Based Personal Protection by Jim Wagner
-Safe in the City by Marc MacYoung
Videos
-The Moment of Truth by Luciano Silveira
-The Missing Link by Bill Kipp
(both videos above are available from Paladin Press
-Panic Attack v.2 with Tony Blauer
BOTTOM LINE: It is better to be a student of reality than a master of fantasy. Real fighting is not like playing tag scoring ippon in karate tournaments. It involves legal, situational, use of force and strategic issues that are rarely covered in traditional karate classes.
September 26th, 2010 at 8:20 am
Even with weapons you need power- a wimpy spear thrust or a sword cut will not penetrate and cut or skewer the target (yes, some Japanese yari spearheads allow some cutting action- depends what kind a koryu ryuha uses.).
If only the nearest boxing gym was not Sweat St. Louis in Clayton, and also if it was not so expensive.
Just like a firefighter who has never trained in a fire tower is a charlatan, any martial artist who claims to train in a martial way and does not train full contact and/or realistically is doing nothing more than ballet or re-enacting old video games. You have to learn to understand what it feels like to get hit, and to persevere when it hurts.
(Unless physical limitations preclude him or her from participating in full contact training, then it is understandable. With weapons it is impossible to train full contact also, that is why koryu do kata with some limited sparring)
That is why I don't pay attention to sport karate (maybe kyokushin-style events- but even that, not really).
Even athletic and agile folks will have problems responding realistically (fitness does not always equal combat competency- a track and field athlete who never boxed will flounder for a while while sparring). My boxing coach told me, yes, you can hit the bag hard, but move and throw more combinations. A one hitter quitter is great to strive for, but if your footwork and reactions are sloppy, your one hitter punch will not hit your target or it will hit a poor target or you will get hit and you will get KOed before you hit your target.
Full contact combat is not from the waist up, it is all the body. I spent some months before I got the basic footwork down, and without footwork you can't punch with power, or time your power punch.
Power training can be done mostly on one's own, but partner drills and sparring can't (I can't feed pads to myself, or practice counters with myself). Even sparring is done with a referee- to make sure everything is okay.
It behooves all serious traditional martial artists to cross train in the various disciplines that comprise modern MMA/UFC style combat- boxing/kickboxing/muaythai, Brazilian jujutsu/grappling/wrestling, and Judo/Sambo (for standup throws- yes, there are successful Judoka in MMA- Karo Parisyan and Olympic Medalist Hidehiko Yoshida are two of them).
For the reality based areas the MMA training can't cover, I recommend the following books and videos to help you design your own training program:
Books
-Reality Based Personal Protection by Jim Wagner
-Safe in the City by Marc MacYoung
Videos
-The Moment of Truth by Luciano Silveira
-The Missing Link by Bill Kipp
(both videos above are available from Paladin Press
-Panic Attack v.2 with Tony Blauer
BOTTOM LINE: It is better to be a student of reality than a master of fantasy. Real fighting is not like playing tag scoring ippon in karate tournaments. It involves legal, situational, use of force and strategic issues that are rarely covered in traditional karate classes.